aiuto non ne posso più!!

[Luke57]

scusate, ho sbagliato a leggere, credevo che il quore si riferisse a me

Ciao,Scarica ed esegui Lop S&D.exe per lanciare l'installazione
http://eric.71.mespages.googlepages.com/LopSD.exe
- Adesso doppio click su Lop S&D presente sul tuo desktop
- Scegli la lingua e seleziona 1 (ricerca)
- Attendere......
- Alla fine posta il log (C:\lopR.txt)

[LokiRabond]

eccolo

--------------------\\ Lop S&D 4.2.4-2 XP/Vista

Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium ( v6.0.6001 ) Service Pack 1
X86-based PC ( Multiprocessor Free : AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dual-Core QL-60 )
BIOS : Ver 1.00PARTTBL
USER : LokiRabond ( Administrator )
BOOT : Normal boot

"C:\Lop SD" ( MAJ : 08-09-2008|21:40 )
Option : [1] ( 13/09/2008|13.50 )

[ UAC => 1 ]

--------------------\\ Listing folders in Local

[28/08/2008|23.06] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Adobe
[30/08/2008|01.34] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Apple
[04/09/2008|09.50] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Apple Computer
[28/08/2008|20.21] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\ATI
[28/08/2008|20.04] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Cronologia
[01/09/2008|10.24] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\d3d9caps.dat
[28/08/2008|20.04] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Dati applicazioni
[01/09/2008|17.14] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\DCBC2A71-70D8-4DAN-EHR8-E0D61DEA3FDF.ini
[28/08/2008|20.05] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\GDIPFONTCACHEV1.DAT
[28/08/2008|22.09] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Google
[12/09/2008|23.56] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\IconCache.db
[11/09/2008|18.04] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Microsoft
[09/09/2008|22.42] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Microsoft Games
[28/08/2008|22.26] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Mozilla
[13/09/2008|13.50] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Temp
[28/08/2008|20.04] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Temporary Internet Files
[28/08/2008|20.21] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Toshiba
[28/08/2008|23.06] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\VirtualStore
[4|File] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\byte
[16|Directory] C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\byte disponibili

--------------------\\ Scheduled Tasks located in C:\Windows\Tasks

[13/09/2008 12.33][--ah-----] C:\Windows\tasks\SA.DAT
[12/09/2008 23.56][--a------] C:\Windows\tasks\SCHEDLGU.TXT

--------------------\\ Listing Folders in C:\ProgramData

[02/06/2008|16.20] C:\ProgramData\Adobe
[30/08/2008|01.34] C:\ProgramData\Apple
[30/08/2008|01.35] C:\ProgramData\Apple Computer
[02/11/2006|15.02] C:\ProgramData\Application Data
[28/08/2008|20.21] C:\ProgramData\ATI
[12/09/2008|16.49] C:\ProgramData\common
[28/08/2008|19.58] C:\ProgramData\Dati applicazioni
[02/11/2006|15.02] C:\ProgramData\Desktop
[12/09/2008|17.03] C:\ProgramData\diryhitm
[28/08/2008|19.58] C:\ProgramData\Documenti
[02/11/2006|15.02] C:\ProgramData\Documents
[02/11/2006|15.02] C:\ProgramData\Favorites
[28/08/2008|20.34] C:\ProgramData\Google
[29/08/2008|12.23] C:\ProgramData\ICQ
[29/08/2008|13.09] C:\ProgramData\IsolatedStorage
[11/09/2008|16.48] C:\ProgramData\khutohur
[01/09/2008|22.02] C:\ProgramData\McAfee
[28/08/2008|19.58] C:\ProgramData\Menu Avvio
[28/08/2008|20.32] C:\ProgramData\Microsoft
[28/08/2008|19.58] C:\ProgramData\Modelli
[28/08/2008|19.58] C:\ProgramData\Preferiti
[11/09/2008|16.48] C:\ProgramData\procmnt
[12/09/2008|15.33] C:\ProgramData\Spybot - Search & Destroy
[12/09/2008|19.24] C:\ProgramData\Spyware Terminator
[02/11/2006|15.02] C:\ProgramData\Start Menu
[02/11/2006|15.02] C:\ProgramData\Templates
[28/08/2008|20.18] C:\ProgramData\Toshiba
[02/06/2008|16.28] C:\ProgramData\Toshiba Connect
[28/08/2008|20.05] C:\ProgramData\ToshibaEurope
[02/06/2008|16.11] C:\ProgramData\Ulead Systems
[01/09/2008|00.21] C:\ProgramData\WLInstaller
[0|File] C:\ProgramData\byte
[33|Directory] C:\ProgramData\byte disponibili

--------------------\\ Listing Folders in C:\Program Files

[02/06/2008|16.19] C:\Program Files\Adobe
[28/08/2008|18.51] C:\Program Files\Apoint2K
[30/08/2008|01.34] C:\Program Files\Apple Software Update
[28/08/2008|18.48] C:\Program Files\ATI
[28/08/2008|18.50] C:\Program Files\ATI Technologies
[28/08/2008|18.51] C:\Program Files\Camera Assistant Software for Toshiba
[13/09/2008|12.49] C:\Program Files\Common Files
[28/08/2008|18.46] C:\Program Files\CONEXANT
[01/09/2008|22.05] C:\Program Files\Crawler
[30/08/2008|01.39] C:\Program Files\DivX
[28/08/2008|23.56] C:\Program Files\DragonLance 4th Age
[28/08/2008|23.52] C:\Program Files\EA Games
[12/09/2008|23.11] C:\Program Files\Enigma Software Group
[28/08/2008|19.58] C:\Program Files\File comuni [C:\Program Files\Common Files]
[28/08/2008|22.04] C:\Program Files\Google
[29/08/2008|12.54] C:\Program Files\ICQ6
[29/08/2008|12.23] C:\Program Files\ICQ6Toolbar
[30/08/2008|01.12] C:\Program Files\InstallShield Installation Information
[30/08/2008|01.36] C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer
[02/06/2008|16.12] C:\Program Files\InterVideo
[09/09/2008|15.26] C:\Program Files\Java
[02/06/2008|15.38] C:\Program Files\Marvell
[29/08/2008|00.33] C:\Program Files\Mcro 2.3
[02/11/2006|14.37] C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games
[21/01/2008|04.35] C:\Program Files\Movie Maker
[11/09/2008|18.26] C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox
[02/11/2006|14.37] C:\Program Files\MSBuild
[02/06/2008|15.24] C:\Program Files\MSXML 4.0
[02/06/2008|15.41] C:\Program Files\NetWaiting
[02/06/2008|15.41] C:\Program Files\O2Micro Flash Memory Card Driver
[30/08/2008|01.36] C:\Program Files\QuickTime
[28/08/2008|20.20] C:\Program Files\REALTEK
[28/08/2008|18.55] C:\Program Files\REALTEK RTL8187B Wireless LAN Driver
[02/11/2006|14.37] C:\Program Files\Reference Assemblies
[12/09/2008|14.48] C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy
[12/09/2008|19.23] C:\Program Files\Spyware Terminator
[09/09/2008|15.26] C:\Program Files\Sun
[28/08/2008|20.18] C:\Program Files\Toshiba
[02/06/2008|16.28] C:\Program Files\Toshiba Connect
[12/09/2008|14.47] C:\Program Files\Toshiba TEMPRO
[02/06/2008|16.08] C:\Program Files\Ulead Systems
[02/11/2006|15.01] C:\Program Files\Uninstall Information
[30/08/2008|16.38] C:\Program Files\VBA
[30/08/2008|01.09] C:\Program Files\Veoh Networks
[12/09/2008|19.23] C:\Program Files\WinClamAVShield
[21/01/2008|04.35] C:\Program Files\Windows Calendar
[21/01/2008|04.35] C:\Program Files\Windows Collaboration
[21/01/2008|04.35] C:\Program Files\Windows Defender
[21/01/2008|04.35] C:\Program Files\Windows Journal
[01/09/2008|00.24] C:\Program Files\Windows Live
[28/08/2008|21.56] C:\Program Files\Windows Mail
[02/06/2008|16.12] C:\Program Files\Windows Media Components
[21/01/2008|04.35] C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player
[28/08/2008|19.58] C:\Program Files\Windows NT
[21/01/2008|04.35] C:\Program Files\Windows Photo Gallery
[21/01/2008|04.35] C:\Program Files\Windows Sidebar
[0|File] C:\Program Files\byte
[58|Directory] C:\Program Files\byte disponibili

--------------------\\ Listing Folders in C:\Program Files\Common Files

[02/06/2008|16.20] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe
[02/06/2008|16.12] C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield
[02/06/2008|15.30] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Java
[01/09/2008|00.22] C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared
[30/08/2008|01.39] C:\Program Files\Common Files\PX Storage Engine
[02/11/2006|13.18] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Services
[02/11/2006|13.18] C:\Program Files\Common Files\SpeechEngines
[21/01/2008|04.35] C:\Program Files\Common Files\System
[28/08/2008|20.19] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Toshiba Shared
[02/06/2008|16.12] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems
[01/09/2008|00.24] C:\Program Files\Common Files\WindowsLiveInstaller
[02/06/2008|16.27] C:\Program Files\Common Files\Wise Installation Wizard
[0|File] C:\Program Files\Common Files\byte
[14|Directory] C:\Program Files\Common Files\byte disponibili

--------------------\\ Process

( 64 Processes )

... OK !

--------------------\\ Searching with S_Lop

No Lop folder found !

--------------------\\ Searching for Lop Files - Folders

C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\nso12D6.tmp

--------------------\\ Searching within the Registry

..... OK !

--------------------\\ Checking the Hosts file

Hosts file CLEAN


--------------------\\ Searching for hidden files with Catchme

catchme 0.3.1353 W2K/XP/Vista - rootkit/stealth malware detector by Gmer, http://www.gmer.net
Rootkit scan 2008-09-13 13:50:42
Windows 6.0.6001 Service Pack 1 NTFS
scanning hidden processes ...
scanning hidden files ...
scan completed successfully
hidden processes: 0
hidden files: 0

--------------------\\ Searching for other infections


No other infections found !

[F:3][D:40]-> C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\Temp
[F:60][D:1]-> C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Roaming\MICROS~1\Windows\Cookies
[F:12][D:3]-> C:\Users\LOKIRA~1\AppData\Local\MICROS~1\Windows\TEMPOR~1\content.IE5
[F:1][D:1]-> C:\$Recycle.Bin

1 - "C:\Lop SD\LopR_1.txt" - 13/09/2008|13.52 - Option : [1]

--------------------\\ Scan completed at 13.52.02
[ UAC => 1 ]

[Luke57]

Ciao, riavvia in modalità provvisoria
http://207.46.197.98/Windows/it-IT/Help ... 11040.mspx

visualizza file e cartelle nascosti:
# Start
# Computer
# Premiamo il tatsto ALT per la visualizzazione della Barra dei Menu
# Clicchiamo su Strumenti
# Opzioni cartella
# Tab Visualizzazione
# Mettiamo il segno di spunta su Visualizza cartelle e file nascosti

cerca ed elimina le seguenti cartelle:
C:\ProgramData\diryhitm
C:\ProgramData\khutohur
C:\ProgramData\procmnt

Svuota il cestino

Scarica hijackthis da qui:
http://www.trendsecure.com/portal/en-US ... ckthis.php
Leggi "il programma non necessita di installazione, a questo punto si consiglia di creare una cartella nel vostro PC dove depositare l’eseguibile del programma. Es. C:\Programmi\Hijackthis.
Una volta terminato il dowload, il dl si procede con la scompattazione del file .zip nella cartella precedentemente creata. Dopo l’operazione sopraccitata andanda a sfogliare la cartella da noi creata troveremo il file HijackThis.exe, ora per comodità creiamo un collegamento da mettere nel desktop attraverso il tasto dx del mouse nel sottomenù invia a Desktop (crea collegamento).
Apri hijackthis.exe, scegli "do a system scan and save a log file", al termine dello scan si creerà un log, copia e incolla detto log in un post.

[LokiRabond]

Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 23.22.19, on 13/09/2008
Platform: Windows Vista SP1 (WinNT 6.00.1905)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v7.00 (7.00.6001.18000)
Boot mode: Normal

Running processes:
C:\Windows\system32\taskeng.exe
C:\Windows\system32\Dwm.exe
C:\Windows\system32\taskeng.exe
C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_07\bin\jusched.exe
C:\Program Files\Apoint2K\Apoint.exe
C:\Program Files\Camera Assistant Software for Toshiba\traybar.exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\Power Saver\TPwrMain.exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\SmoothView\SmoothView.exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\FlashCards\TCrdMain.exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\HDMICtrlMan\HDMICtrlMan.exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\Registration\ToshibaRegistration.exe
C:\Program Files\Spyware Terminator\SpywareTerminatorShield.Exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\TOSCDSPD\TOSCDSPD.exe
C:\Program Files\Camera Assistant Software for Toshiba\CEC_MAIN.exe
C:\Program Files\Apoint2K\ApMsgFwd.exe
C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe
C:\Program Files\Apoint2K\HidFind.exe
C:\Program Files\Apoint2K\Apntex.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\Crawler\Toolbar\CToolbar.exe
C:\Program Files\Toshiba\HDMICtrlMan\HCMSoundChanger.exe
C:\Windows\system32\SearchFilterHost.exe
C:\Program Files\Hijackthis\HijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = www.google.com
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =
R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - - (no file)
O2 - BHO: Supporto di collegamento per Adobe PDF Reader - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {1CB20BF0-BBAE-40A7-93F4-6435FF3D0411} - C:\PROGRA~1\Crawler\Toolbar\ctbr.dll
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_07\bin\ssv.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Toolbar &Crawler - {4B3803EA-5230-4DC3-A7FC-33638F3D3542} - C:\PROGRA~1\Crawler\Toolbar\ctbr.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_07\bin\jusched.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Apoint] C:\Program Files\Apoint2K\Apoint.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Camera Assistant Software] "C:\Program Files\Camera Assistant Software for Toshiba\traybar.exe" /start
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TPwrMain] %ProgramFiles%\TOSHIBA\Power Saver\TPwrMain.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SmoothView] %ProgramFiles%\Toshiba\SmoothView\SmoothView.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [00TCrdMain] %ProgramFiles%\TOSHIBA\FlashCards\TCrdMain.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HDMICtrlMan] C:\Program Files\TOSHIBA\HDMICtrlMan\HDMICtrlMan.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Toshiba Registration] C:\Program Files\Toshiba\Registration\ToshibaRegistration.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\QTTask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SpywareTerminator] "C:\Program Files\Spyware Terminator\SpywareTerminatorShield.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [TOSCDSPD] C:\Program Files\TOSHIBA\TOSCDSPD\TOSCDSPD.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [procmnt] C:\ProgramData\procmnt\ubojcrwj.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [SpybotSD TeaTimer] C:\Program Files\Spybot - Search & Destroy\TeaTimer.exe
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /detectMem (User 'SERVIZIO LOCALE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [WindowsWelcomeCenter] rundll32.exe oobefldr.dll,ShowWelcomeCenter (User 'SERVIZIO LOCALE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [Sidebar] %ProgramFiles%\Windows Sidebar\Sidebar.exe /detectMem (User 'SERVIZIO DI RETE')
O4 - .DEFAULT User Startup: TRDCReminder.lnk = C:\Program Files\Toshiba\TRDCReminder\TRDCReminder.exe (User 'Default user')
O8 - Extra context menu item: Crawler Search - tbr:iemenu
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE16~2.0_0\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE16~2.0_0\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra button: Inizia a fare affari su eBay.it! - {76577871-04EC-495E-A12B-91F7C3600AFA} - http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/724-44559-9400-3/4 (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: Amazon.co.uk - {8A918C1D-E123-4E36-B562-5C1519E434CE} - http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/red ... &site=home (file missing)
O9 - Extra button: ICQ6 - {E59EB121-F339-4851-A3BA-FE49C35617C2} - C:\Program Files\ICQ6\ICQ.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: ICQ6 - {E59EB121-F339-4851-A3BA-FE49C35617C2} - C:\Program Files\ICQ6\ICQ.exe
O13 - Gopher Prefix:
O18 - Protocol: tbr - {4D25FB7A-8902-4291-960E-9ADA051CFBBF} - C:\PROGRA~1\Crawler\Toolbar\ctbr.dll
O23 - Service: Ati External Event Utility - ATI Technologies Inc. - C:\Windows\system32\Ati2evxx.exe
O23 - Service: ConfigFree Service - TOSHIBA CORPORATION - C:\Program Files\TOSHIBA\ConfigFree\CFSvcs.exe
O23 - Service: InstallDriver Table Manager (IDriverT) - Macrovision Corporation - C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\Driver\11\Intel 32\IDriverT.exe
O23 - Service: O2Micro Flash Memory Card Service (o2flash) - O2Micro International - C:\Program Files\O2Micro Flash Memory Card Driver\o2flash.exe
O23 - Service: SmartFaceVWatchSrv - Toshiba - C:\Program Files\Toshiba\SmartFaceV\SmartFaceVWatchSrv.exe
O23 - Service: Spyware Terminator Realtime Shield Service (sp_rssrv) - Crawler.com - C:\Program Files\Spyware Terminator\sp_rsser.exe
O23 - Service: Notebook Performance Tuning Service (TempoMonitoringService) - Toshiba Europe GmbH - C:\Program Files\Toshiba TEMPRO\TempoSVC.exe
O23 - Service: TOSHIBA Navi Support Service (TNaviSrv) - TOSHIBA Corporation - C:\Program Files\Toshiba\TOSHIBA DVD PLAYER\TNaviSrv.exe
O23 - Service: TOSHIBA Optical Disc Drive Service (TODDSrv) - TOSHIBA Corporation - C:\Windows\system32\TODDSrv.exe
O23 - Service: TOSHIBA Power Saver (TosCoSrv) - TOSHIBA Corporation - C:\Program Files\Toshiba\Power Saver\TosCoSrv.exe
O23 - Service: TOSHIBA Bluetooth Service - Unknown owner - c:\Program Files\Toshiba\Bluetooth Toshiba Stack\TosBtSrv.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: TOSHIBA SMART Log Service - TOSHIBA Corporation - C:\Program Files\TOSHIBA\SMARTLogService\TosIPCSrv.exe
O23 - Service: Ulead Burning Helper (UleadBurningHelper) - Ulead Systems, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\DVD\ULCDRSvr.exe
O23 - Service: XAudioService - Conexant Systems, Inc. - C:\Windows\system32\DRIVERS\xaudio.exe

--
End of file - 6850 bytes

[Luke57]

Ciao, apri hijackthis, premi "do a system scan only", cerca e spunta le voci seguenti:
3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - - (no file)
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [procmnt] C:\ProgramData\procmnt\ubojcrwj.exe

premi fix checked.

Chiudi hijackthis e riavvia il computer, riesegui hijackthis con "do a system scan and save a log file", controllando che la voce suuddetta sia sparita.

[LokiRabond]

Ciao, sembra tutto risolto !
grazie infinite

[anikanakka]

Usate Sandboxie http://www.sandboxie.com/ programma free che virtualizza il disco rigido e il browser e non avrete più problemi e magagne, io sono mesi che lo uso e non ho più avuto problemi tranne quando non l'ho usato e non sono andato nella lista dei miei siti fidati, perchè quando navigo un pò in giro lo uso sempre evitando così ogni sorta di pericolo. Non caspisco perché viene ignorato un programma da tali potenzialità ,più volte ho segnalato questo programma e neanche mi é stata data una risposta o un opinione, forse farà parte dell'iter avere problemi e bestemmiare davanti al pc loggando i file di hijackthis su cose sconosciute prese in rete quando invece si potrebbe evitare tranquillamente usando questo programma riportando con un semplice "delete" il browser lo si ha di nuovo bello pulito e si evita di mettere a rischio anche i file di windows, non capisco proprio perché non lo prende nessuno in considerazione. La mia ragazza che usa il pc per navigare e logicamente non sa una mazza ne di virus ne di programmi di altro genere o come si possa evitare di avere browser modificato o storie di questo genere gli ho predefinito il browser con sandboxie così é impossibile che faccia qualche cavolata, l'amico che ha il negozio di pc che ogni tanto vado a trovare ha sempre problemi coi pc che usano i suoi clienti con internet point, un giorno gli ho parlato di questo programma e mi ha detto che non aveva tempo, poi invece di tempo per rimetterli a posto i pc e formattarli lo ha(installare il programma ci si impiega un paio di minuti) e allora mi chiedo perché il fatto di non conoscere significhi ignorare e continuare a persistere negli stessi problemi che ti capiteranno anche il giorno dopo. Non ho fatto la scoperta dell'acqua calda, esistono già da diverso tempo programmi che lavorano sulla virtualizzazione e che magari evitano la frase del topic "aiuto non ne posso più" a molti utenti che usano il pc....